The performance of the cartridge wasnt in question if it made it into the chamber and the trigger was pulled. A look at 243 Ballistics with information for some of the most popular 243 Winchester ammo loads available in the United States. [6] Other factory produced 6mm cartridges like the 243 Win and 6mm Rem are both too long for the AR-15 and require the AR-10 platform. Looks like the smal brother from 50 fatmac. I got the rifle a case and 2 boxes of Winchester ammo for 600 bucks. At 55 grains, its bullet achieves 3,910 fps; at 100 grains, 2,960 fps. Although the .223 Remington, .308 Winchester, and .300 Magnums are commonly used as sniper cartridges, they arent the most suitable. MidwayUSA currently has loaded 243 WSSM ammo. But then play with a lighter bullet, launched at higher muzzle velocity, vs. a heavier bullet with higher Bcs launched at a lower velocity. 165s moving a pokey 2250 make it 1000yrds supersonic with the same mild recoil as a 7.6239. Like its father, the .243 Winchester is an efficient cartridge, and will give good velocities without being too hard on barrels. Beau has collected guns since he was 21. $1259 22. You can often find out that the conventional wisdom of push it faster is increasingly wrong. The engineering of the Super Short Magnum maximizes science to get better performance. Downrange at 800+ yards, however, those bullets had all the ballistic fervor of a .22LR. . They had a substantial enough stock that when you put a 1907 sling on them, and then reefed down on that sling, the rifle held up and didnt go out of zero, or worse, break the stock. His father taught him hunting, bullet casting and reloading, which lead him to develop a strong passion for guns and gun gear. Get one with the removable pilot. Youre not going to see the best bullet designs out of Hornady, Nosler, Sierra, etc. deer hunting with a bolt action rifle inside of 300 yards and a $1,000 budget. The design and function of the AR-15 platform perfectly offers the mechanical solution which the .243 WSSM lacked in a bolt action. In my estimation the big case .24's, including the .243 WSSM, 6mm-284, 6mm-06, 6x62, 6x62R, and .240 Weatherby, burn too much powder to be ideal varmint cartridges. Pushing the shoulder back would seriously decrease the case capacity, and youd end up with something that launches at a very modest velocity for a lot of effort. While this cartridge is set to stay in service indefinitely, it too comes with notable weaknesses. Nobody is making them, and the chance that someone is going to stop cranking out rounds they can sell everyone they press, for a flyer, seems highly unlikely. With cycling problems solved, it provides one of the highest velocity options in the AR-15 platform: pushing a factory 55gr bullet a screaming 4,050+ fps muzzle velocity with a mid to long range effectiveness like never before. Anyways, I know some people run these rifles, I think. For 1000m supersonic a 107gn Sierra MK in a 6.5mm BR launched at a moderate 2700fps would easily get there even in fairly dense air. Instead, they just hoped to retro fit it into existing platforms. In reviewing the .243 WSSM, two particular rounds were assessed for performance, the 95-grain Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertip factory cartridge and Bergers 115-grain Very Low Drag boat tail hollow point. And would I have to find a actually winchester barrel or could it be a remington. they are intended for general reloading in a wide range of firearms. Using the M80 ball ammo, they were quite reliable, and they hit plenty hard. If you think the .243WSSM is hard to feed give it to DArcy Echols he will make it feed it is all geometry and math.He used to purposely get a table at the CADA show in Denver next to Don Allen whos rifles were pretty but did not feed worth a _______. Your email address will not be published. Originally designed for long-range varminting, the boattail-base, hollow-point, cup-and-core projectile nicely pulls double-duty for hunting deer-size game. core lokt @ .314 (150gr) or W;nchester power point @ .294 its enough to make a huge difference downrange. The .243 WSSM only gives 50-150fps over a normal .243 Winchester (depending on projectile weight). No love for the .45-70?! But I noticed that you do not hear much about people using a model 70. But Ive spent way too much time tracking deer from new shooters who thought they missed their deer with the 243, only to find it dead a long way away after too long of a track. for Long Range Shooting? Im currently considering an upper in 234WSSM compared to a complete DPMS GII rifle in 243 and the up front cost and weight are my biggest concerns since I can reload. Heavy barrel and the synthetic stock that I use for dogs. This load was used on these long-range . now stick that into your ballistic calculator .At 2000yd the projectile is akin to a .22LR standard. When paired with the right bullets, you can extend your effective shooting distances even further than this if you have the skill. 243 Win Once Fired Brass Bullet Casings - Cleaned pk/50. If you reload, Hornady and Winchester brass are readily available. My first rifle was a Browning a-bolt 2 in .243WSSM bought in 09 it was second hand and abused (the feed lips were blacksmithed with vicegrips) the thing looked as though it lived in the back of a ute. I have a stock of brass I may never get through primo projectiles and a rifle that gives me allot of Joy to tinker with. It uses a .300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) case shortened and necked down to accept a .243 in/6mm diameter bullet, and is a high velocity round based on ballistics design philosophies that are intended . It is a versatile cartridge that is well-suited for a variety of game and target sizes. V-max .I have checked into gettig it upgraded so I can shoot the Berger 105 or 115 bullets which requires a 1in 8 twist barrel. No national military has ever designated the 243 Win for service, although the LAPDs SWAT unit did implement it during their infancy. The 6mm Rem AI will also hold a little more powder than a .243 Ackley. I understand they chrome lined the barrels of the first bolt action rifles put out but I never read about barrel erosion issues from any consumer. I don't know if any of this helps or not. The .308? 6.5 Grendel made a good fist of trying to balance things. With a cartridge overall length of 2.71 inches, it fits perfectly in a short-action receiver; the parent .308 Winchester defines the standard short-action receiver length. The .243 WSSM used with the 95-grain SBST and the 115-grain could represent significant progress in ballistic performance for snipers. Most weights are popular or common construction, such as bonded core soft point or homogenous copper alloy hollow point designs. From left to right: .223 WSSM, .243 WSSM, .25 WSSM, .270 WSM, 7 mm WSM, .300 WSM, .325 WSM. It is based on a shortened and necked down .300 Winchester Short Magnum. Seeing as how it might fire 3-4 rounds a year to check zero and shoot deer that should extend the usefulness of the rifle another 5 years! Improved technology in propellants and the physics behind shorter, wider casings help boost performance. Not bad for a semi-auto ar-15 platform. For long-range varminting, sending light bullets at ultra-high velocities, I just think the 6mm Rem has better case design than a .243 Win. These gunmakers will tend to straighten out the dog-leg in the bolt handle, lop off the sight ears on the rear of the receiver, then polish it up, smooth out the trigger, hang a custom barrel on it, then start working on the magazine/bottom metal. 243 wssm brass For Sale I don't know why this is what it is S shortgrass Well-Known Member LRH Supporter Joined Mar 31, 2010 Messages 3,581 Location Weatherford, Oklahoma Jan 1, 2015 #5 I think I'd plan on buying the reamer, too. 24 Nosler. Yet 7mm-08 reloads have better ballistics than.well, pretty much anything made in short action class today. The boattail design enhances accuracy and an alloyed lead core provides increased weight retention for deeper penetration. And work it does! In fact, well look at everyone and give you our long range optics ranking opinion. The incredibly steep shoulders of the case from neck to fat magnum body meant it had a really hard time feeding in a bolt action platform. Most drop at the shot. The .243 WSSM is a popular choice for both hunting and long-range shooting. Although the 115-grain VLD bullet is too long for the AR-15 magazines, .308 manufacturers like Armalite, Bushmaster, DS Arms, Springfield Armory, or DPMS should allow for modifying the .308 receiver to be able to contain the 115-grain bullet. 243 WSSM - 105 Gr. Your email address will not be published. Call me when a box of ammo doesnt cost more than filling up my wifes SUV. FR . Your email address will not be published. H1000: WLR: 2.434: 28" 3220: Awesome Accuracy! $460 47. Peoples rabid love for that rifle, I will never understand. I guess people just like new things. Im a fan of the 7mm BR. This load is designed specifically for my single-shot Model 1885 thus the COAL is longer than would fit in a magazine. Concealed Holster Review. Blairsville, Ga. Mar 16, 2009 #1 I currently do alot of varmint and coyote hunting at long ranges. Reloading data for caliber .243 WSSM with .243 | 85gr | Sierra HPBT GameKing bullet. BTHP ammunition is Federals Matchking with Sierra bullets. How long will a .243 last? The .243 WSSM has a relatively high muzzle velocity for a .243in caliber cartridge, and a high ballistic coefficient. Consequently, the sniping community has been looking at the high velocity 6mm cartridge as a possible solution. But I want a rifle that's good for long-range varmint whacking, but also something I can use for the occasion when I need to take a long poke at a whitetail in a hay field. Beretta 3032 Tomcat [Review]: A Worthy Self-Defense Pistol? I always felt it was overbuilt. Popular among metallic silhouette and long range shooters for its low recoil and high accuracy. It is popular for hunting deer, pronghorn, and coyote, as well as varmint and small game. IMHO, those are kinda on the upper end of the necessary case capacity and generate unnecessarily strong recoil. which is a great bullet, but it requires; 1-7.5 or 1-7 twist to really stabilize them. The more we all know, the better organized and stronger the shooting and hunting community will be. Surprisingly, this long range firearm can travel quite a bit of distance for a hunting rifle. 5.56? See target groups and more information on this 105 A-Max load. [7] The 243 WSSM gives generally a 10% increase in velocity over the 243 Win. An ammunition company who advertised the caliber said there was no way they could get brass (so why list it damn it?). The David Tubb 115g molycoated projectiles have a G1 BC of .612 standard and .635 when tipped. The .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum, or .243 WSSM, is a .243in caliber sporting rifle cartridge introduced in 2003. It is capable of accurate shooting at long range, and is commonly used in long-range competitions. If you don't get the accuracy you want, try a different bullet. In a 7.6251 battle rifle, it is more accurate than its peers. If only we had a standardized long action semi like the ar15. Well at the gun shop today and on the shelf sits an Olympic Arms 243wssm .900od 20" heavy barrel AR. In Stock. Unsubscribe at any time. Required fields are marked *. [5] Based on Hodgdon reloading data typical velocities should range from approximately 4,000ft/s (1,200m/s) with a 58-grain (3.8g) bullet to approximately 3,000ft/s (910m/s) with a 100-grain (6.5g) bullet. Its time to move on. I personally think the .243 WSSM most excellent for varminting, small game, medium, and even some Big Game at the appropriate distances. Increasing speed increases throat wear, copper fouling, cleaning time etc. Whats the point? Commercial bolt actions have been so reliable for so long that people who arent gunsmiths have forgotten the years and years gunsmiths spent getting magnum cartridges to feed reliably in standard actions eg, sporterized Mauser/1903/1917 actions. On the 2/8/14 I shot 3 shots into .219 at 200yds witnessed by a range officer (all holes touching) The sights were head and shoulders above the peer rifles, with match sights being even better. Sunday at 12:15 PM #1 152- 3 bags of new 243 wssm winchester brass - $40 a bag 39- once fired brass- $30 or obo 243wssm dies w/ shell holder, shoulder bump insert, and modified case . First, know that the shape, mathematics, and engineering behind the case design is very important. Hi All I have no idea why. 100g speer / 42g ADI 2009 gets you 3100fps Chronyd by the same fella within 10 fps of each other. 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