As was mentioned at the start of the performance section of this review, as well, I want to highlight here the physically apparent differences in new versus old pin Root Beer Float switches. Zeal and crew kicked off the custom switch scene many years ago with their iconic Zealios switches and the story of switches today couldnt be told without them. @keyframes _1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT{0%{opacity:0}to{opacity:1}}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc{--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left:0px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;padding:3px 9px;position:absolute;border-radius:4px;margin-top:-6px;background:#000;color:#fff;animation:_1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT .5s step-end;z-index:100;white-space:pre-wrap}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc:after{content:"";position:absolute;top:100%;left:calc(50% - 4px - var(--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left));width:0;height:0;border-top:3px solid #000;border-left:4px solid transparent;border-right:4px solid transparent}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd{margin-top:6px}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after{border-bottom:3px solid #000;border-top:none;bottom:100%;top:auto} -Very little changed with respect to scratch and overall sound of the Gateron Root Beer Floats between 17,000 and 34,000 actuations. Improved by Gateron in order to reduce pin bending during transit, the new pin design in Root Beer Floats sees a double layered metal PCB mounting pin whereas the old pin design looks like the standard two-ply metal pin. As of today, Ive got over 225 scorecards, nearly 300 measurements, and over 600 different force curves all collected directly from my collection and simultaneously growing pile of extras as well. Without any explicit comparison, these very much remind me of Zyko-based frankenswitches which aim to push a high degree of tactility as well as shortened travel distance to provide distinctive feedback from both the tactile bump as well as bottoming out. Meta commentary aside, however, this will definitely not be one of those background sections as both the Root Beer Floats and their designer, PuNkShoO, have quite a bit of switch history surrounding them that Ive managed to escape covering at length thus far. When asked about this, PuNkShoO responded quite positively overall, and not wanting to lose any bit of the passion behind this response, the following was his take on openly sharing factory errors and prototypes: I think its fun. Not only do these not functionally affect the switchs performance, they do not affect the ability of the Root Beer Floats to fit into normal PCB hole slots. Upon opening the switch this disappeared, and I was ultimately unable to figure out the root cause of this issue, though its presence in stock form is still strange. 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All the Gateron Cap V2 Switch sets come with 35 Switches and 110 Switches Option. Use code GOAT for 10% off your order when you check them out! Switch Type - Linear. It is worth noting that while this is uncommon broadly speaking, I feel as if I have been seeing this design feature crop up more frequently in stems over the past handful of months of reviewing switches. While I am under the assumption that this new pin variant will be the production standard moving forward, there effectively exists two variants of the Gateron Root Beer Floats with slightly different leaf pins at the bottom of the switch. Fittingly, however, the mention of force curves at the start of this review sets the stage for a great chance to remind my readers about some of the other content shenanigans I get caught up in on a week-to-week basis. My answer only further doubles down to Absolutely Not when I consider that Gateron has demonstrated that they are capable of stopping more or less all of the unsavory aspects of the Root Beer Floats on their production line and at a lower price point in existing top-tier premium offerings. The presence of just the anticounterfeit stamp and not the inverted nameplate in both the Cream Sodas and Root Beer Floats implicates these housings as being made using explicit Ink-bottom housing molds. 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These aren't mythical creatures, they're simply mechanical key switches in a hobby with tight tolerances. As well, there are a series of four mold ejector circles in the base of the switch, but much like those that are also present on the corners of the upper rim of the switch, these are fairly commonplace in most switches nowadays. When asked about this seeming flip-flop in interest between Aflion and Gateron, PuNkShoO shared that his original intentions were much more broad, wanting to work with Aflion to create an artisan line of switches which would run for limited, small batches. Rather than scraping these altogether, though, PuNkShoO chose to move the Bad Leaf Melody design into a brand new switch called Runners. See what I did right there? Figure 16: Numerical details regarding the stock Gateron Root Beer Float switch force curve diagram. As will be shown below, in the performance section of this review, there is functionally zero difference between the new and old pin versions of the Gateron Root Beer Floats, and they will forever stand as merely a pedantic point for switch collectors like myself to care about. ", "The Keychron K4 version 2 keyboard is a fantastic wireless mechanical keyboard with brown switches and the cool is that it works on both Mac and Windows devices. Gateron Baby Raccoon Linear Switch Set. Externally, however, the Root Beer Floats feature a sideways GATERON anticounterfeit stamp between the metal PCB-mounting pins as well as not one, but two capital letter mold markings located between the LED/diode pin slots in the bottom housing. r/MechanicalKeyboards . Given that I simultaneously spend the Switch Background section of every review attempting to document all of the details around switches and pick up brand new switches with little to no history, these opening paragraphs usually devolve into long winded tangentials regarding the context surrounding a switch rather than a switch itself. $200 shipped. Gateron Oil King Linear Switch Set. Intro Gateron Milky Yellow Sound Test | Royal Kludge RK61 Ched Dizon 464 subscribers Subscribe 10K views 1 year ago #RK61 #GateronYellow Changing the switches on my first hotswappable keyboard,. It is being provided to help potential trade partners have more immediate background information about with whom they are swapping. Having absolutely no linear pre-travel whatsoever, the switch peaks in tactile force within the first 20-25% of the switch and then falls off in force until the abrupt, long-pole bottom out around 3.2 mm in total travel distance. All notes in the previous section comparing against stock switches also holds true here as well. This also has a fair bit of mods. Next Time 75 is the yellow with black keycaps. ", "I have been using the Keychron K2 V2 for a few months and something about the style and profile of this keyboard just makes every setup look more modern and aesthetically pleasing. - There is a decent bit more stem wobble in both the N/S and E/W direction in the Root Beer Float switches that isnt present in the Lubed Invokeys Blueberry Chiffons. Following streams and videos from quite a few content creators such as Georen, Tofu_Types, Starfirepenguin, ItsFireWire, and more, a noticeable amount of community excitement grew around these switches leading up to their groupbuy from September 22nd to October 16th of 2022. -The Root Beer Float switches are noticeably better than the Neapolitan Ice Cream switches when it comes to both N/S and E/W direction stem wobble. ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} $150 shipped OBO. No. As you can clearly see, these switches have absolutely no differences in their performance whatsoever as a result of the new, thicker pin design. 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