(If only Strike Industries made the J-Brake for .308s), Eventually. Finish is flawless. but I have to remove my brake all the time and run my bird cage for normal carry, because if I have to shoot a rattlesnake or shoot a predator without muffs, my ears will ring for hours! Length:2.25 Averages of multiple measurements were, however, rounded to 4 decimal places and recoil reduction percentages were rounded to 2 places. It would be a little rough if some one-off unit won the next round of testing but nobody could get one hahaha. If you have any questions or concerns related to your automobiles muffler, then contact Muffler Technician in Rowland Heights, California at (626) 964-8400. You mean the Rolls Royce (later lisenced by Packard) Merlin inverted V12 that was used to power the P-51 Mustang (that originally used the underpowered Allison V-1710 V12)? I mean, does it produce decreased recoil with a can screwed on it? Youll want to clamp the gun down in a vice at the typical contact points of a shooter. 4. They've designed a new brake that is smaller and more efficient than the old one. Ive got a Levang on my AR, and was torn between this or the Troy Claymore? 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Hmmm? In Stock. Diameter(at largest point): 0.8 Creating new products while constantly reinvesting in better equipment lead to a 27,000 sqft facility in the great state of Texas. Choose from any combination of no jets, two large aperture jets, two small aperture jets, and two solid plugs to get it just right. This new brake is proportioned correctly for .223 and .30 caliber rifles, but it provides a suppressor mounting surface just as solid as the old BA series. Jeremy, Thank you for posting this review. It doesnt inherently leap upwards unless the support behind it makes it do so. It would be interesting to see a test where the top 5 or so where tested with high versus low gas volume. c. This device is intended to be aesthetically AWESOME! Might actually be a contender! Can you post a link to your 1st test so I can access it easily? For a competition gun, Id go with something more aggressive on the recoil reduction front and wouldnt give a crap about concussion or flash (as long as the flash is to the sides and not in my sight picture). Thunder Beast (TBAC) Compact Brake - This is the Thread-Over Muzzle Brake (TOMB) designed to work with the new line of Thunder Beast suppressors, which are the most popular suppressors among the top 50 PRS shooters. He may be an unknown user, but that doesnt mean hes not right. Material: 1144 stressproof steel Finish:Ionbond CrCN Weight:2.56 oz Material: steel American Precision Arms (APA) In Stock. Weight:3.51 oz Dominating the field once again, really, winning by a pretty decent and entirely repeatable margin. Its a good unit. JEC Brake Flawless machining and an extremelyconsistent and nice black phosphate finish. Diameter(at largest point): 0.866 Bird Of Prey USA Bird of Prey Compensator: Right after the Ares Breath alphabetically is another brake thatsa bigdeviation from the norm. Diameter(at largest point): A strong, runner-up showing for the DoubleStar! Weight:3.15 oz I like a deep black, semi-gloss melonite or nitride finish, and the Spikes Dynacomp delivers here (they also make it in other finishes, like Nickel Boron). Add in our Blast Mitigation Device and Suppressor Mount and you also have a very flexible solution. 8 models Battle Arms Development AR-15/AR-10 Gas Tube (4) As Low As (Save Up to 21% . If theres more mass & therefore inertia underneath the bore (e.g. My .300 Blackouts consistently group at less than 1/2 MOA at 100 yards out of very short suppressed barrels. Weight: 3.60 oz Would a comp at 60% actually cause the rifle to move forward with the big in play? The precision machined taper insures consistent and solid lockup when mounting the suppressor to the 338 BA brake. Finish:melonite Ill probably take you up on it, but my guess is that a 3rd test wouldnt take place until the end of August or so. First off I LOVE both your muzzle brake videos and flash hider video. I mean, what number would I assign to the J-Comp, for instance, that ranked slightly differently in each test? Yes, but appearance is very meaningful to a lot of muzzle device buyers, and the JP piece is absolutely gorgeous in machining and finish, whereas the Miculek is quick and dirty. Weight:4.88 oz MSRP:$99. We let a couple of other guys try it on their SPR style rifles. Manufacturer restrictions do not allow us to show you the price in the catalog or the product page. Yeah, I bought the Recoil Eliminator purely for its aesthetics and hoping that it really was an amazing brake. That guy is blatantly advertising and criticizing other products on a third party site. However, this time around there are [almost] noflash hiders, linear compensators, or other devices not actually designed to reduce recoil. But we screw this all up by holding it below the centerline anyway. BUT tuning it is basically impossible. I ended up getting the. The BULLSEYE is available in 0.7, 0.75, 0.925, and 1.0 base diameters to best match your barrel. Muzzle brakes: These devices reduce the felt recoil of each shot. even if it does fall short in its tactical persuader stand-off prongs, which naturally I have to use basically weekly as do we all . WAY delayed from when I intended to do it, but it will be happening late this month. Best muzzle device review on the Web, btw!! That was the only weight variable. $125.00) (5 reviews) Course if Lantac ever releases the blast shield for the Dragon brake I might jump on that one. The first 5.56 muzzle brake test is HERE, the third is HERE, the first 5.56 flash hiding test HERE, the second 5.56 flash hiding test HERE, and the first .308 brake test HERE. 2000 Windy Terrace #1A, Cedar Park, TX 78613. While there absolutely was some consistency, it wasnt as tight as I would have liked. Similar in dimensions, appearance, chamber and baffle design, and on my recoil sled rig theyre identical in recoil reduction performance. MSRP:$125. Length:2.0 Weight:3.46 oz Also I would like to see the Swedish LRD comp in the test. Despite my assumption that it was going to drive the muzzle down, compensation actually seems pretty much spot-on and recoil reduction is much better than I expected from a brake with such small chambers. This gives 4 possible configurations (short . A2 Birdcage. Length: The machining and the finish are clean and the steel has a quality feel. Presents a simple interface which allows you to provision duplicate instances in a DR region, schedule periodic replication, test your DR instances and fail over from a single screen. Since weight does legitimately reduce felt recoil, I saw no need to compensate for that and if a brake wants to reduce recoil by weighing 20 lbs thats just fine and dandy haha. Ill borrow it again for recoil test #3, along with a few other high-end brakes/comps that somebody has and is willing to loan. I figured Ares Armor was going to poke the ATF in the eye again haha. http://www.alamofourstar.com/, Looks like it could be effective. Unfortunately I didnt realize. Finish:machined stainless or black (+$10) Weight:3 oz Weight:2.98 oz They might move the cloth a lot but wouldnt actually bother other people or blow out eardrums and such like a truly concussive brake could. One thing I have to wonder is if the brakes that have more of a downward push may have benefited in this test by causing more friction between the table and sled? But that being said, a 24 barrel will have less gas exiting it than a 16 barrel which complicates this measurement. EDIT:This is the second test I did, but it hasnt been the last. I know the good ones will be able to eliminate flash to basically zero, despite the ammo. I know this is very subjective, but could you, using the bird cage as a base, could you tell us which one would you leave on the gun if you were going to have to shoot without ear protection. PAs M4-72), Im thinking theres probably so much cross-over that it may not really be worth doing a separate AK-47 test. The Bird of Prey is made from a series of triangular, steel plates (wafers) bolted together at the corners. Weight reduces recoil, so its fair to pit all recoil-reducing devices against each other regardless of weight or material. Percentage reduction divided by dollars. Noticeably absent (to me anyway) was JPs large diameter version of the JP Bennie Cooley Standard break. There can be negative trade-offs to all of those things, though, so the final design may sacrifice ultimate recoil reduction to assist in another way. The Cherry Bomb by Q is a Quickie Fast-Attach muzzle brake compatible with the THUNDER CHICKEN and trash PANDA silencers by Q.It features our taper mount shoulder to align with our barrels and silencers, uses a 1/2 inch socket on the front for easy install and removal, and features 360 circumferential ports to alleviate the need for timing and shims. Weight:3.26 oz Based in the UK I have extensive designed and engineering expertise and have had my designs lodged with the Royal Armouries. Some say that the .300 Blackout performs better (less recoil) with a enlargened .223 comp rather than using a .308 Win comp, because the .300 has gas volume more like the .223 than the .308. Id really love to see future testing comparing muzzle rise elimination. Length:2.24 This is another example of extremely clean machining, and the finish is one of the better examples of black oxidized that Ive come across on any steel part. MSRP:$89.99. Interesting and excellent work. Thats a recoil reduction of 73.50% (in shootout #1, it came out to 73.84% so were pretty darn consistent here!). When used alone, the new "CB" brake is approximately 30-40% more effective at recoil reduction than the old 30BA brake. Ill try to get some goods . I have a feeling that some muzzle brakes are too agressive and actually fling the barrel down and some are not aggressive enough and dont really do anything to eliminate muzzle rise. Hybrid devices are also available, which combine the practical effects of two or more of these devices into a single unit. Such a great article i have read this is a amazing blog thank you for sharing this blog with us.. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Weight:3.51 oz I noted obvious errors on many manufacturers sites so chose not to use any of their info across the board. R&D MRAD Finish:melonite The Merlin engine that made the pretty good Mustang Mk.I into the awesome P-51B/C. Can anyone add to this test with some comments on noise/concussion differences. Its a combo of carbon getting on the inside and the shots blowing out any machining and finish residue, cuttings/flashings/swarf, etc Already accomplished on the AFAB, actually, as after this test concluded I mounted it to my AR-15 and it has been on there since for trigger testing and testing a new scope, etc. However, I cant test that. Whether theres enough room to open up the threads from 1/228 to 5/824 is another question but not always necessary. Manticores NightBrake is designed primarily to keep the muzzle nice and steady without increasing flash or concussion, and it seems to do a solid job at this well, except for bare muzzle-like fireballs out the front in a compact, lightweight, and aesthetically-pleasing package. Other than the damn Mini-Comp, the other brakes that were in both tests were pretty close, though, only varying 2-3% test to test. MSRP:$57.95. We Service all Gas/ Hybrid Makes and Models, and have the Skills, Experience and Tools to Perform Quality, Guaranteed Repairs Every Time Established in 2010. I only wish it had wrench flats to make installation easier. Poke a small hole in the center of the plastic membrane (hot needle?) Yes, Brakeout will be in the next FH test. So anyway what Im trying to say is that I think muzzle rise is actually directly caused by rearwards motion, and in reality it isnt muzzle rise (meaning nothing is pushing the muzzle up) its rotation around the rifles center of mass. One issue though is that Im concerned it may actually be too agressive on muzzle rise. Eight brakes did multiple shots with theexactsame result each time. Thunder Beast's new CB brake reduces up to 40% more recoil than the older BA. Hey TTAG, if I had a muzzle device professionally modified, and I sent it to you would you test it? The JuggerBrake is an aggressive, modern-looking brake thats available in 3 flavors: Long Range/Sniper, CQB Right Hand, and CQB Left Hand. Or, even if you dont lean backwards your shoulder curves back at the top (and most shooters shoulder an AR kinda high) and the gun rolls up that curve a bit (the buffer tube and therefore bore axis is high on that curve). Looking at the baffles, it appears they dont immediately redirect gas backwards (thereby causing concussion), but instead let the gas hit the flat surface, and only get redirected backwards after slowing down considerably. How-To. Muzzle rise happens on that sled for the same reasons (although not necessarily to the same degree) that it happens when shooting off-hand. Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF) Muzzle Brake (P415): As mentioned above, POFs P415 and Lantacs Dragon are fairly similar. It was bad enough to deserve an article of its own, so give that a look to learn of the JuggerBrakes multiple, fatal flaws. Finish:black nitride or bead blasted stainless steel With 50,000+ likes on Facebook and some very interesting deals coming off in the USA, its clear Im the market leader. Weight:3.47 oz Houlding Precision Firearms HPF-15 Curse Muzzle Brake: Designed to be a good all-around brake and comp, the Curse is a dual-chamber brake with a bunch of relatively small slots instead of full-on, open ports. Thanks for all your efforts! I would like to note is that the cycling of the bolt carrier group is a variable that really needs to be reintroduced in order for me to make the best decision here. Add an s to the line maybe? Cost. Length:1.75 the center of the butt stock. M4SD is here so itll be in the upcoming flash hider test and in muzzle brake test #3 eventually. Can you confirm this? Baffle size gets progressively smaller, the last baffle is thinner, the bore is actually honed (not drilled) to a very specific diameter, and the 11 degree target crown apparently helps stabilize the bullet upon exit. Please add Tromix Shark Brake to the next review. (The Quiet Brake). The M4-72 is surprisingly less concussive than I expected. MSRP:$44.95. I would like to see a test combining both aspects, muzzle rise as well as recoil reduction. And the last, potentially most valuable, use a sum of stack ranks to determine which brake has overall the best reduction and lowest cost. I noticed much more blast and concussion in the first few rounds than after that. Each port has a round hole in the middle that diverges outwards into the Y shapes visible on the outside. Length:3.10 Weight:2.1 oz The finish is even and deep Id guess nitrided. Semi-permanently converts a BA series suppressor to accept the CB series of muzzle devices. Recoil reduction really wouldnt be worth checking in this case, but sound, concussion, ease of install would be valid comparisons. On the other hand, it might provide ideas for companies to mass produce something similar or take design queues from, etc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 27, 28, 29) instead of showing multiple brakes tied for the same place (e.g. 1. Therefore it is our mission to treat everyone who comes through our door as a customer for life. Right at the top of over 65 examples. I had very high hopes for this brake, as the first port is quite large and that first baffle is angled rearwards a bit like the M4-72s baffles. Shooting standard 5.56 ammo with 55 grain load. Factor in that the Dragon also reduces muzzle rise and you have a very stong performer over the competition. Put something solid, even if its as narrow as a pencil, on the buttstock right on the bore axis and I dont believe that muzzle is going to move in any direction (bare muzzle; no muzzle device). Im sure others have asked, but Im also really interested in understanding the brakes effect on accuracy of the weapon, aside from what we infer. LOL yeah. However, I also would like to see the APA gen 2 Bastard line (micro bastard for 5.56, and little bastard for .30) included in round #3 of testing. Length:2.2 I bet if you rotated the stock 180 degrees around the buffer, muzzle rise would become muzzle down. Diameter(at largest point): 0.97 I need a little break (brake?) Also you didnt compare apples to apples. Awesome videos thanks for the work! The budget for buying brakes isnt that big, and there are quite a few with higher priority (based mostly on requests) to buy before the $110+ Dynacomp 2, Ideally a 2nd flash hiding test will be published before year end as well. Live Chat Live Chat. Which you should totally watch and, like, go nuts clicking on the in-video advertisements! Diameter(at largest point): 1.00 Alas, it came in sixth, just a hair behind the JP. Im sort of hesitant to include custom jobs since they wouldnt then be available for purchase. Probably not! Am I the only one who saw the Ares Breathe and thought Oh, thats the guts of a suppressor just waiting for the can? I been looking at 2 and here are the 2 i been looking at ( SJC Titan Compensator, .223 Stainless Steel )( V-POWER Muzzle Brake/Compensator ) so what should I go with and if there is another one that is better then those, please let me knowthank you, You left the DPMS Miculek out of the final data? Finish: deep black oxide Nope, you are not the only one! Diameter(at largest point): 0.865 M4SD was in the flash hiding test and will be in recoil test #3 along with possibly a couple other Griffin items. Diameter(at largest point): 0.95 MSRP:$29.95. MSRP:$64. MSRP:$75. http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tranquilo-556-muzzle-brakeadapter. Glue it in place. You dont see a lot of international car companies going to american car companies to have engineering/design work done. Some engineering types claim that ~74% of the rearwards recoil energy is from the gasses. What is the performance units? I didnt keep it after the last test. MSRP:$55. I was recently perusing some information on muzzle brakes as I have recently built some rifles for 3gun competitors. I could lend you one . Brakes on the pink background have 3 or more chambers (the only more is the Seekins), compensators designed with lots of little ports, whether holes or slots, but no baffles at all other than at the muzzle, are on a yellow background. #1 and most relevant is on target, the most recoil reduction. Installing a TBAC muzzle brake using a peel washer - YouTube How to install your BA brake using a peel washer How to install your BA brake using a peel washer AboutPressCopyrightContact. Are you Kidding! Length:2.57 Performance was in the middle of this pack, but thats still good for a 59% reduction in recoil energy. http://www.shopmillerprecisionarms.com/Hammerhead_Muzzle_Brake_Miller_Precision_Arms_p/hh-muzzle-brake.htm. Lund / SJC Titan as there are already 4 brakes here that didnt arrive in time for this test, I think its fair to say there will be a Shootout #3 eventually (maybe late August?). Go bare muzzle and brace the gun against a narrow-but-solid object (narrow vertically so we know it isnt physically impeding the gun from rotating up or down), suspend it in the air so its free to move and see what happens with mass added and subtracted above and below the center of the front/rear weight balance, etc. Id really like to see how it compares to the others. Mitigate muzzle jump and recoil with these devices from . For the small size and weight, Thunder Techs brakes perform like crazy. I gotta say man, its good knowing Im not the only obsessive (so Ive been called) guy about firearm parts and mainly reviews. 4 models (27) As Low As $6.75 15% Bonus Bucks. Good muzzle control, but some muzzle flash out the front. Weight:5.25 oz We got a SCAR 17 barrel in the shop so we tested every muzzle device that we sell. Well, volume level can be quantified exactingly but its very expensive to do so and Im not sure the results would even matter to anyonethe dB scale is pretty much impossible to truly understand and theyll all do permanent hearing damage if shot w/out ear pro on anyway. Aiming those first two ports on the top forwards would actually increase recoil slightly compared to aiming them straight up (or back), but this may be done to mix up the gasses coming out of the front ports, thereby preventing or reducing flash. Instead of concussion, its more like a gust of wind after every shot. Free shipping for many products! There is nothing new or innovative in the design and it copies many features from other manufactures products, however, it has been marketed very well with edited slow motion video clips and rousing musical backgrounds; see any unedited youtube clips and it jumps around as much as many other brake. APA Gen II Little Bastard I use them and the PWS CQB on a few SBR systems, but do not have the gear to see how they stack up for hiding flash and if they do anything to reduce recoil and flip. Its even more pleasant from behind the rifle with this on than with an A2 birdcage or a bare muzzle. Material: stainless steel Additionally, my hope was that the percentage reductions for brakes that appeared in both tests were so consistent that we could accurately estimate where any of the brakes from one test would have placed in the next test. I live in South Texas and carry my rifle on my ranch everywhere I go. Muzzle brakes that produce downwards pressure can be perfect for some people and way off for others because of different shooting stances, holds, shoulder positioning of the stock, etc. Shoot me an e-mail if youre interested. The Performance per dollar chart needs to be fixed. This keeps blast and concussion to a minimum, while reducing recoil, keeping the muzzle stable, and somewhat reducing flash signature as well. He mounted a laser and a glow in the dark board and used a slow exposure camera to capture the movement of the barrel in all directions and travel distance. Product specific FAQs have not been added for this product. http://www.ar15news.com/2015/06/11/alamo-star-announces-cowl-induction-break-cib/ Sign in or Register () . Weve got a brake that we would be interested in seeing where it falls on your scale. Lets say it reduces it by 50%. Do you think they should run similar? MSRP:$129. Most of the manufacturers dont say specifically, even though quite a few of them are standard A2 birdcage diameter (~0.866) and have grooves at the base like a birdcage and I have to assume that many of them will accept a suppressor with a QD mount designed for that or the Gemtech Halo style, etc etc. Yeah the main issue is that concussion is hard to quantify and sound is hard to measure (plus all require ear pro no matter what) in the first shootout, the FERFRANS sure made for a massive fireball though! As far as I can tell, the Jake Brake isnt currently manufactured? Houlding Precision Firearms HPF-15 Irish Curse Muzzle Brake: The Irish Curse is a single-chamber version of the Curse, with an extra port on top to compensate for its smaller size. SKU: Thunder Beast : Brakes : 30CB-BRK 5/8X24. Cool little brake. To sight corrections (albight relatively minor) to make in your write up: 1.) Hey Jeremy thanks for doing this, and thank you for bringing my attention to the Precision Armaments M4-27. Bring up the SIG MPX muzzle brake lawsuit and such. Thanks for the exhaustive effort. Machining and finish are basically what Id call fast and dirty, but the truth is I think this is probably the most appropriate choice for most muzzle devices anyway. The new TBAC CB series brakes can be used with the older 30BA and 30BAs suppressors with the CB2BA adapter . All of the data I have access to is included in this test so everybody can compared these devices based on what they care most about recoil reduction, weight, length, diameter, price, etc. I believe theyre working on an M4-72 threaded 5/824 and bored for .30 cal and others. I am a shooter and a guy who builds a damn fine rifle. What would you rather have, a heavy steel comp that reduces recoil, but blasts you, degrades accuracy, and does not facilitate followup shot or a very light one that is faster in acquisition, does not affect accuracy and doesnt affect the shooter, and is wicked fast in return to zero for followup shot, yet is close to the best in recoil control? Perhaps I missed this somewhere but Jeremy, what ammo did you use for the testing? I believe there was more gas/pressure being generated this time around due to the ammo being about 30 degrees warmer, and different brakes reacted to that differently. How is this Device different from others that have been determined by ATF to be Silencers? If they were all that close it would have been AWESOME. The slow-mo footage on this one is definitely worth watching. M4-72 angles the deflected gas rearwards, which undoubtedly helps to push the brake forwards even better (kinda catches the gas and pressure and redirects it). 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